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Friday, May 28, 2004
This War is Very Unpopular
Outside the Beltway (pro-war liberal)
Most importantly, we cannot shift those burdens and costs onto the backs of the Iraqi people. For example, someday a bloody battle will have to be fought in order to establish order in Fallujah. This burden should not be passed on to the Iraqi army. We should pay the price and do it ourselves.
This new government will not allow the continued existence of an independent Baathist city-state (with it's own army). And the "Fallujah Brigade" will fight hard to prevent the occupation by what they will see as a heretic Shia government. This confrontation will be extremely bloody and a lot of innocent civilians are going to be killed.
Ask yourself, under which scenario will fewer innocent Fallujah citizens be killed:
1) An assault on the city by the new Iraqi army under orders from the newly elected Shia-dominated government of Iraq.
or
2) An assault on the city by US Marines.
We must carry the weight here. We must do the right thing, not the easy thing.
...The lead-up to the war was contentious and, knowing what we know now, quite of few of the advocates of the war would have come down the other way. I suspect I would have, as Ive always been skeptical of using the military for nation building. Indeed, I was very much a Realist on the war, rejecting the Administrations arguments for it until roughly the time that North Korea announced that it had nuclear weapons. Ultimately, the prospect of a nuclear-armed and thus uncontainable Saddam pushed me into the pro-war camp.I have a slightly different perspective. I was anti-war before the invasion, but now that this mistake has already occurred I am very pro-war. Now that we have created an international crisis, it would be pure cowardice not to face up to our responsibilities.
On the other hand, I wonder how many wars that we now view as just would have met with popular approval in their midst. The U.S. Civil War, for example, would almost certainly not have been fought if Lincolnlet alone the publichad known ahead of time that over half a million would be killed and many times that maimed for life. The initial northern war aim of preserving the Union would certainly not have been deemed worth that price. The abolition of slavery, which became the war aim well into the conflict, has made it seem worthwhile in the hindsight of history, but that goal had much less popular support in the North than did Union.
Would we have fought World War I if we had known the cost ahead of time? Or that wed have to fight it again thirty years later? How about Korea? Certainly, wed have avoided Vietnam; a good thing in hindsight.
Indeed, World War II is the lone high cost war since the War for Independence that would likely have commanded popular support had the costs been known up front. And, indeed, Im not sure WWII would survive this test had we not been attacked at Pearl Harbor. We were quite content to let Hitler have his way in Europeparticipating only with materiel supportfor quite a few years until Pearl Harbor gave Roosevelt the excuse he needed to send us to war.
Most importantly, we cannot shift those burdens and costs onto the backs of the Iraqi people. For example, someday a bloody battle will have to be fought in order to establish order in Fallujah. This burden should not be passed on to the Iraqi army. We should pay the price and do it ourselves.
This new government will not allow the continued existence of an independent Baathist city-state (with it's own army). And the "Fallujah Brigade" will fight hard to prevent the occupation by what they will see as a heretic Shia government. This confrontation will be extremely bloody and a lot of innocent civilians are going to be killed.
Ask yourself, under which scenario will fewer innocent Fallujah citizens be killed:
1) An assault on the city by the new Iraqi army under orders from the newly elected Shia-dominated government of Iraq.
or
2) An assault on the city by US Marines.
We must carry the weight here. We must do the right thing, not the easy thing.
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The longer the fighting goes on the more Marines will be killed. This is in the nature of modern warefare.
The only way to reduce casulaties is the way we did it in the Iraq invasion of 2003. Hit them hard, hit them fast, and get it over with as soon as possible.
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The longer the fighting goes on the more Marines will be killed. This is in the nature of modern warefare.
The only way to reduce casulaties is the way we did it in the Iraq invasion of 2003. Hit them hard, hit them fast, and get it over with as soon as possible.
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